[Heropon]

@SergeyBalashov another question/suggestion about software : do you have options for "FPS limiter" in the software ?
A FPS limiter slider with lots of options in the quick access menu would be great !

[ToTTenTranz]

Originally Posted by SergeyBalashov

There are no reviews of the final product. These are all pre-reviews of not a final product. These are engineering samples.

This is perfectly acceptable.

Will there be production units sent to reviewers before the availability date of October 31st?
Are we going to see final reviews before that date?



I would also like to know if the panel is recognized as HDR in windows 11, i.e. it supports 10 or 12bit color at full resolution.

[SergeyBalashov]

Hi Everyone!
Day 4 of AMA is here, and it's a kind reminder that tomorrow is the last day we will be accepting questions in this specific thread.
But this does not mean we will stop asnwerting tomorrow - I am commited to delivering answers to all questions recieved until tomorrow evening.
Yes, I know, not all questions are answered yet (such as the controller holders and so on), but they are still being discussed internally with the team.



Durability of stand/rails/etc:
- Hope you noticed the feedback of reviewers on how sturdy the hinge is. We tested a lot of hinges mechanisms and rails mechanisms, but we are not ready to share the nubmers yet. But I can tell that when it comes to any kind of moving parts mechanical engineering, all engineers are always way ahead of what general public thinks the resource is.


Warranty and parts:
- Go is covered by standard local country warranty (usual for EU is 2 years, and for some countries 3 years as default - depends on local laws), so that should actually tell you how sure are we about this device design.
- This also means you do not need to care much about which options we do sell separately, as it is the same system of warranty coverage as with all our latpops.
- In many countries there will be some extra paid options available - "Accidental Damage Protection" (including screen damage), "Keep Your Drive" , and for countries where 2 years come as standard - the 3-year warranty extention. I personally think the ADP and regular extentions are really worth their money.


Carry case accessory:
- It is in every box. We decided to not compromise on this valuable user experience.
- It is rigid and firm outside, a bit softer inside.
- Legion Glasses also come with a seprate carry case included

Battery life (again):
- The software and BIOS are not final, so no numbers on battery life of main unit or controllers.
- Compared to others with smaller battery I definitely expect us to have more battery life, because there are no major features that would eat more battery compared to others. No, screen size and refresh rate difference is not that high to overturn the 20+% more battery capacity.
- We are specifically fine-tuning quiet mode to be optimized for very low consumption.
- Same with the laptops, the battery life will vary A LOT depending on how you use it - TDP, screen brightness and refresh rate, cooling mode, WiFi/Sound (yes, speakers are 2x2W, so they eat battery too! that's 4W of 49WHr battery right there).
- I'd say limiting TDP, putting brightness to lower level, switching to 60Hz and using headphones will really extend your usage scenario a lot. If you will use it as a pure Windows tablet watching movies, I assume (assume! not confirm!) it may last you the whole 8-hr day or more.
- If you turn everything to the max, of course you will not get a good battery life - same as with any laptop. It's math! You have 49Whr battery, so if you set your TDP to 20W, then add max brightness screen (let's say 5W to be over the top), sound 4W, WiFi 1W, you just got yourself 20+5+4+1 = 30W. So 49Whr divided by 30W = 1.6 hours.
- If you tune TDP to 7W, use screen in 2W mode and do not use sound, then you get 7W+2W+1W = 10W, and that means you get 49Whr divided by 10W = almost 5 hours. (I do not count here some energy losses on cooler fan and on voltage translation losses for simplicity)

Individual questions:

Originally Posted by Zdenko

I hear your frustration grows, Sergey, but bear with us! it's the enthusiasm for your product that generates all these questions. we (me definitely) want this to be successful and cant wait for the reviews and being able to experience it hands on

- Haha, no frustration here. Just wanted to be absolutely clear on the topic.
I totally understand the interest for the product, and as a tech geek appreciate the questions.
I guess the thing that is visible from the inside of the industry, but is not that visible from outside is that how much efforts any new feature requires, and how hard it is to balance budget of every project so it fits the selected niche.

Originally Posted by Alexia4bit

For the budget is this mid range or high end?

- It's €799 in EU countries, and comparable prices in other EMEA countries. If we compare to gaming laptops - it's definitely in the budget zone category. If we look into gaming handhelds - it is buget-to-midrange category.

Originally Posted by Heropon

@SergeyBalashov another question/suggestion about software : do you have options for "FPS limiter" in the software ?
A FPS limiter slider with lots of options in the quick access menu would be great !

- That should be a feature of GPU driver or a game itself, but not a hardware producer.
- What we offer is the fast TDP slider in quick menu, that allows you to quickly tune how much of power budget do you want to allocate to processing, defining the performance level.
- I'd say for handheld battery gaming it is a golden standard to use the FPS limiters built in the games.

Originally Posted by ToTTenTranz

Will there be production units sent to reviewers before the availability date of October 31st?
Are we going to see final reviews before that date?

- We will get the final units to content creators before sales embargo for sure, and I hope they will have time to test them with release versions of HW/SW/BIOS. Although, we all know that no SW/BIOS is truly final, and we always work on improvements.

[ProjectSBC]

@Heropon handheld control panel developer here, I plan on supporting this as soon as possible after release, maybe sooner if Lenovo reaches out to me 😏

fps limiters: there are two generic options: amd driver has an fps limiter which i could add to my driver interface dll. In practice it’s not always reliable as ROG Ally users found out.

the other is RTSS which Lenovo won’t mention as it’s 3rd party, but I already implement it in my software.

if Lenovo wanted to they could create an interface to this fps limiter in their software (the amd driver one)

[Heropon]

Originally Posted by SergeyBalashov

- That should be a feature of GPU driver or a game itself, but not a hardware producer.
- What we offer is the fast TDP slider in quick menu, that allows you to quickly tune how much of power budget do you want to allocate to processing, defining the performance level.
- I'd say for handheld battery gaming it is a golden standard to use the FPS limiters built in the games.

I mean for example RSR is also a driver feature and you have a button for that in quick menu so that's basically the same.
Not all games have built-in FPS limiting options so that's definitely something that would be very convenient to have instead of going into Adrenalin.

I've seen the RSR button in your quick menu but not RIS button, that would be great to have too. I personally use RIS much more than RSR so that would be great to have a button for this too.
Well RIS is something I have almost always on (even combines well with FSR) so I wouldn't lack that too much.

Anyway I think that the less we have to go in Adrenalin the better, especially for less expert users.

PS : I would appreciate a word on the possibility of adding 25W TDP support in battery mode. This is really something that a lot of users ask on Discord, Reddit and co.

[baldsealion]

Originally Posted by Heropon

I mean for example RSR is also a driver feature and you have a button for that in quick menu so that's basically the same.
Not all games have built-in FPS limiting options so that's definitely something that would be very convenient to have instead of going into Adrenalin.

I've seen the RSR button in your quick menu but not RIS button, that would be great to have too. I personally use RIS much more than RSR so that would be great to have a button for this too.
Well RIS is something I have almost always on (even combines well with FSR) so I wouldn't lack that too much.

Anyway I think that the less we have to go in Adrenalin the better, especially for less expert users.

PS : I would appreciate a word on the possibility of adding 25W TDP support in battery mode. This is really something that a lot of users ask on Discord, Reddit and co.

Agreed here -- TDP limit is great because we don't have to mess with stuff like RyzenADJ - but Steam Deck has built-in FPS limiter.

Hardly ANY games have built-in FPS limiters, I wish they did.

Since the refresh rate can only go down to 60hz, we are left with using Adrenalin or RTSS to adjust the framerates, the same way all other PC Windows Handhelds have to deal with it. It's frustrating, it's janky and it ruins the experience.

I know Lenovo is a hardware company mostly but the software here is equally important. If the Lenovo software is meant for being able to both play and control your game settings, I'm sure that Lenovo wants consumers to have the most seamless experience - and going in and out of the Lenovo launcher setting to re-configure FPS limits all the time, is nothing close to seamless.

The less 3rd-party community solutions we have to use, the better.

[ProjectSBC]

@SergeyBalashov @Heropon

ill write the DLL and give you the source code if it helps Lenovo 😅😅😅

[Zdenko]

@baldsealion
I would even go as far as to say that from longterm perspective SW is more important than HW. that is why steamdeck is successful now and wasn't as much at the beginning, they nailed the SW. ppl were waiting how it turns out and through updates and community the SW experience is levels above where it was at launch while no HW spec changed.

I personally am waiting for reviews to confirm how legion go feels to use, day by day, how convenient is it, reliable from SW perspective. this is my main decision point. HW of this device looks awesome. can SW keep up?

[Otagastrife]

@ProjectSBC I'm waiting for this;)

[ProjectSBC]

@Otagastrife look who it is!!!!😁