[halonfire]

@DoctorEldritch Metroid Dread with keyboard only. Whatever works for you!


Blasphemous i will beat it once on normal and watch the ending on youtube. Not glutton for punishment🤣
AC games i dont like the grind mechanic either, they even have a DLC for that "Timesaver"


That's a seal of approval! Added to my list.
"Igarashi conceived the game after his departure from Konami in 2014, prompted by numerous fan requests to continue making games in the style of Castlevania: Symphony of the Night... Ritual of the Night received generally positive reviews upon release, with many describing it as a worthy successor to the Castlevania games that inspired it."

[DoctorEldritch]

@halonfire To be fair, the "true" ending also includes an extra biome and lore, but I would think there are YouTube videos that cover those as well.

But speaking of punishment, what is your take on rogue-like metroidivanias like, for example, Dead Cells or Rogue Legacy, where the big part of gameplay is to die over and over again?

[halonfire]

@DoctorEldritch It's part of the process, choose the right items, perfect the jumps, "counter" timing, use the appropriate weapon etc.. There is a learning curve and that's why we love this games. Modern games lack a feel of discovery, trial and error.

[DoctorEldritch]

@halonfire That's true. It is an observation for those of us who started playing early: games seem to become easier and less challenging. At the dawn of video games, developers did not compromise their vision (which was already undermined by now rudimentary technology of that time) for the sake of making gamers' lives easier. The first Prince of Persia was brutal. Or that dragon bit in Colossal Cave Adventure. Maybe @GoLLuM13 has more examples from those wild times 😅

Trial and error yes, but I meant it more if you play rogue-like metroidivanias like that at all. I know some people who like pure metroidivanias like Hollow Knight that have proper non-repetitive gameplay but do not play rogue-like games like Dead Cells because they do not like "repetitive death" as a gameplay feature, or because games like that usually take much longer to come to the true ending, you have to chip away at them bit by bit. But similarly, there are many who like them both, myself included. So I was more asking what camp you belong to.

[DoctorEldritch]

And also,

Originally Posted by halonfire

That's a seal of approval!

Like this?

[GoLLuM13]

@DoctorEldritch First games that come to my mind "Ghouls 'n Ghosts", "Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts" and "Contra/Gryzor/Probotector"

[DoctorEldritch]

@GoLLuM13 I never finished Ghouls 'n Ghosts, now when I am trying to remember it. But I did finish The Lost Vikings, though that one was a bit later and I am not sure if it was quite as challenging as Ghouls 'n Ghosts.

[halonfire]

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I'm more into metroidvanias but i also played alot of "Contra" back in the day.

[DoctorEldritch]

@halonfire Aww, look at his little thumbs!

I remember Contra, but I have not played it. Though I am asking more because I am interested in genre combos that different people like, I think it's inspiring how versatile and diverse games are and what genre combos developers come up with, and how people may like them or not.

For example, how about a metrodivania-ish game with a digger mechanic added to it, like SteamWorld Dig 2, from the SteamWorld game series?

Or more traditional linear platformers. Back in the day, I remember I liked Heart of Darkness very much, it is an old example, though. But things like that?

[halonfire]

@DoctorEldritch SteamWorld Dig 2 digger thing is a Metroid Classic. Never played Heart of Darkness. Timespinner had a cool game mechanic where you could time freeze enemies and use them as platforms.