Comme vous le savez je suis assez fan des casque VR.
Mais qui dit VR, dit Meta (facebook) parque qu’aujourd’hui c'est le principale acteur du secteur.
En concurrence avec Valve/HTC et steamVR et le casque VIVE, ByteDance/TikTok avec le casque PICO, Sony et le PSVR ... et Apple (loooooool)
Meta vend les casques à perte, comme le font les marque de console pour gagner sur les vente de jeux vidéo. (Je me suis toujours demandé comment ça pouvait être légal en France, à cause d'un détail : La Vente et non la REVente) donc déjà difficile de financer la R&D avec la vente de matériel.
Mais surtout ils sont à fond sur le métaverse ! Le mot est beau, le projet beaucoup moins.
Petite parenthèse pour expliquer ce qu'est un métaverse (méta-univers) :
J'ai beau être geek et curieux : c'est de la merde ! On est TREEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS loin du film ready player one malgres des milliards d'euro, des dizaines de milliard d'euro investis
On confond souvent metaverse et monde persistant. Les MMORPG sont des mondes fictifs fermé et non évolutif pour la plupart. Et quand ils sont évolutif ils sont restreint sur le nom de joueurs (Conan Exiles, ARK,...)
Le metaverse, lui, allie à la fois les jeux vidéo, les réseaux sociaux, l’e-commerce, des mondes immersifs en 3D, mais aussi des places de marché, etc ... Mais surtout de l'interopérabilité entre les mondes créé.
La definition du metaverse celon Roblox :
– l’identité : avoir une identité virtuelle, liée ou non à une identité réelle ;
– l’immersion : l’utilisateur est plongé dans un méta-univers et se déconnecte de la réalité ;
– une civilisation ;
– un système économique : le metaverse doit disposer de son propre système économique ;
– la socialisation : l’utilisateur doit pouvoir se sociabiliser dans un méta-univers ;
– la diversification : une grande quantité de contenu est proposé (objets, accessoires, œuvres, etc.) ;
– une accessibilité illimitée : un utilisateur doit pouvoir y accéder à tout moment, quel que soit le lieu où il se trouve ;
– une latence très faible : afin d’assurer un bon fonctionnement en continu.
Ces mondes se veulent synchrones, sans limites et diversifiés. La-bas, tout individu peut posséder des biens et investir. En respectant une certaine forme d’interopérabilité, ils permetent à chacun de personnaliser son méta-univers et d’interagir avec les différents espaces interconnectés, notamment via la blockchain et les NFT (NFT : loooooool).
Bref, ça vend du rêve !!! On dirait un ultra MMO social, sans le coté farmiing, immense et construisable a volonté.
La réalité :
Pas de discourt, juste des images :
Horizon World de Méta :
Roblox :
VRChat :
Sandbox :
On est LOINNNNNN de Ready Player One, certe, mais aussi des MMORPG qui datent de dix ans ! Même beaucoup plus ! Ils sont où les 50 milliards de dollard d'investissement de Meta ???
Pourtant le casque VR offre des oportunités de gameplay que le pc et le smartphone n'ont pas. Mais c'est gâché par des technos dépassées et des graphismes digne de la Wii
Si vous vous en savoir plus sur la perte financière de Méta :
@ramax D'un autre côté, on ne sait pas si ils vendent vraiment à perte.
En ce qui concerne le metaverse, ça vend du rêve... surtout aux investisseurs.
Toutes ces fausses innovations qui ne sont destinées qu'à faire parler pour que le cours des actions montent dans les institutions financières qui achètent en gros sans avoir la moindre notion de la réalité techno
Je me demande vraiment si on y arrivera un jour.
J'ai du mal à voir l'intérêt, mais peut être qu'à un moment ça sera tellement évolué que ça paraitra largement mieux que la réalité... à voir mais je ne suis pas convaincu du tout pour le moment.
@ramax Ah oui je ne parlais pas forcément de photo réalisme, mais plus d'intérêt global. Typiquement les jeunes, si le metaverse leur offrait une vie "heureuse et pleine de promesses" (je caricature) alors que la réalité serait beaucoup moins glorieuse. Typiquement c'est quand même un peu ce qui se passe avec les jeux vidéos qui permettent souvent de s'échapper du réel.
@Badfluffy Justement, ils ont perdu 200 milliard en valeur boursière, les gens les lachent, surtout depuis l'annonce de gros investissements sur l'IA car les investisseur ont peur que Meta lâche le metaverse du jour au lendemain
@ramax ça m'étonne pas vraiment. Faire de l'innovation en carton juste pour dire mais sans pousser parce que la mode est passée, ça a tendance à faire grincer les dents des investisseurs
@Badfluffy apres je vais quand même essayer. La commu FR Meta Quest à une permance tous les jours à 18h. Je vais aller voir cette semaine ce qu'il s'y passe.
Mais j'ai pas beaucoup d'espoir
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